I like the cheapness of certain things, like oil-canning reflections, for example. What is problematic, and I think this is a more fundamental issue, is that design should’t be exclusive. But it’s the opposite of Design Within Reach (the furniture retailer). The everyday can be thought through in some way that actually heightens experience, so that you become aware of it in some way. I think the challenge now, especially here in the U.S., is that architecture is often the application of expensive materials in some big private place. It sucks if architecture is only a luxury product.

Taken from an interview by Stephen Froese in PIN–UP No. 18, Spring Summer 2015. Portraits by Jeremy Liebman.

SO–IL are Florian Idenburg and Jing Liu, with Ilias Papageorgiou.